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Vanity Publishing!

The Young Poet Society was born for a number of reasons, not least because I believe sincerely in the art and craft of poetry and the need to grow interest in young people, but also because I was deeply aware that there are many scams based on vanity publishing schemes that need to be countered.
 
This page is primarily here to explain what Vanity Publishing is, how it can be damaging and how to recognise it.
 

What is Vanity Publishing?
 
In simple terms, it gets its name from the idea that when you submit a poem to a Vanity Publishing House, you get a reply telling you what a wonderful poem it is. Usually the replies are written in extremely glowing terms, but always concluding with how they would like to publish the poem in an anthology that they are planning to produce very soon.
 
The Anthology, they will tell you, will only contain work from some of the outstanding poets of the world and you will be one of them.
 
Of course at no time will they offer you any payment or royalties, but they will offer you the chance to own one or more of their high quality bound books with your poem in at a price, which may be quite expensive.
 
Of course they expect you to be so flattered, that you will stop at nothing to own one of these books along with hundreds of other poets that have received similar letters.
 
As the prime target for sales is to the poet, the Vanity Publisher is less concerned about more general sales as they can make a very good income from the initial order book from the poets. They may or may not register the book with other outlets, but will seldom actively promote such sales. There is more money to be made from the poets themselves.
 
Quite often, such targetting is followed up by emails suggesting that they would like to honour your talent at an Awards Ceremony where you will be presented with a valuable award (perhaps an engraved crystal vase or similar) and you will be invited to read your poem. You will of course have to contribute to the cost of the award (again usually quite expensive) which if you are unable to attend will be sent to you.
 
So in general - You pay at every stage!
 
It might be cheaper to go to your local store and have a small trophy engraved to yourself.
 
Who are they?
 
Well you must determine who these are for yourself as YPS can not within our charter name outside organisations of this sort. However they all follow this or similar approaches so should be fairly obvious. Don't be put off by the fact they have apparent credibility. They often have elaborate and good sounding names, websites and advertising. They generally operate within the law, but morally raise many questions. They make significant money out of you the poet and have many resources to use to make themselves sound even more credible.
 
Can they damage a Poet?
 
Well apart from getting you to part with money that may be better spent, in general, main stream publishers do not like vanity publishers and may be reluctant to work with poets that have used them. They generally will not accept such as evidence of having been published.
 
 

So How is the Young Poet Society Different?
 
Well firstly, it is true that we want to get as many poets published as we can. This means that we will accept work that sometimes needs a little more work, and we will try to encourage our young poets to improve.
 
BUT ...
 
We do not push sales to our own poets (we give 4 free copies)
We offer royalties and profit share
We do not retain any profits other than for running the society, publishing costs etc.
No wages are paid to staff - all including the founder, are volunteers.
 
Our eventual aim once we meet all the size criteria etc. is to register as a charity. We are working hard to fulfill all the requirements which are very strict.
 
Our ideal goals are to move on our poets to mainstream publishers, where talent may be recognised. Let's be real about this, only the very best will succeed, but at least we are a legitimate publishing channel.
 
Our patron, John Pilgrim, is a journalist, writer and BBC Local Radio presenter and has been good enough to publicise the society's work a number of times on his programme. Two of our poets have read their poems on his programme as well. We have a duty of care to our poets and our links with such organisations also adds to public reviews of our work.
 
We are also very open and willing to answer any questions or concerns you may have.
 
Philip G. Bell
Founder

Don't get caught out - question motives!